I think that the point is, she's starting from a super-downtrodden position, and trying to achieve a lofty dream. It's a lot like Buffy - in which witches were presented as being capable of good and capable of bad. When it comes to animation, including animated film, I recommend the works of Will Eisner (no relation to Michael) in particular his book Visual Storytelling and Graphic Narrative. In most Disney movies I have seen, there are many types of ethnic groups that have not yet come to stand out in Disney. Retrieved November 19, 2020, from https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/08/27/race-and-gender-in-the-princess-and-the-frog/ […]. She’s so unique in the fact that she is both spoiled and wealthy but not evil in any way. Their “all over the place” energy would be perfect for interactions with children and adults by the new attraction. Meh. - The voodoo thing: I already said this above somewhere, but I'll say it again - the film addresses both the dark side and the light side of Voodoo, both of which exist, as in any magic/k based religion. Of course race is part and parcel of that particular region, but things like voodoo, the fly that people seem to be taking so much objection to (who isn't necessarily black, and is in fact, most likely not a black stereotype, but a Cajun one -- which may be just as bad), the hot sauce and gumbo aspect of the video game, and even the idea of imagining the main character as a maid originally. - The toothless firefly is a representation of a Cajun stereotype. The kindly old voodoo priestess is eccentric and spunky, but also a fantastic sage, more than willing to give out advice in her own creative ways to those in need. The version I saw (when they rereleased it) no longer had the pickaninny character, but I immediately noticed that it *does* have the only identifiably "black" centaurs as zebra-bottomed slavegirls to Dionysus. The people of New Orleans have a certain culture---jazz music and the practice of voodoo being part of it. PRIVACY POLICY. These depictions still must be held up by further details in the story, but it's a useful tool none the less. When you wish upon a star… Image courtesy of Huffington Post This entry was posted in [...], [...] time I refused to watch it because I was under the biased assumption that it looked extremely racist. I've noticed from reading this site that the race topics tend to turn into a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" sort of situation, especially here. Find something else to be angry about like world hunger!!!! They NEED….BETTER have Ray in there!! Mama Odie met Yogi … Princess and the Frog quotes from Mama Odie 17. How fun would that be? Sounds like a pretty great role model for any young girl, whether she be black, white, yellow, red, orange, green, purple, or any other shade of the rainbow. A frequent complaint on Sociological Images is this cultural idea that we cannot have a black protagonist: they are cast as the sidekicks, the villains, the sassy friends, et cetera. Is it a particular accent in that area?) Walt Disney Animation Studios presents the musical THE PRINCESS AND THE FROG, an animated comedy set in the great city of New Orleans. From my viewing of the trailer, without knowing much else about the film, I think she’s really reaching. One could easily say that portraying a black person in a lower class position is racist - but it's integral to the typical Disney story, of rising from the lowest possible point a la Aladdin to the highest possible point. Margaret Lyons at EW.com says. We’ve seen Disney films with non-White protagonists before–“Mulan” and “Pocahontas,” for instance–but to my knowledge there haven’t been any with a Black main character, unless I guess you count the Uncle Remus stuff, and that’s just a whole lot of ick. Mama Odie, a two-hundred-year-old blind Bayou Fairy Godmother who lives deep in the Louisiana bayou with her "seeing-eye snake" Juju. Gina Carano Claps Back With ‘Princess Bride’ Quote. Everything to Know About ‘The Black Cauldron’, Disney Continues to Enhance Cast Member Safety Protocols. Charlotte finds the story to be romantic, while Tiana proclaims she will never kiss a frog. She became this way due to her father giving her everything as a child, but her ditzy, diva personality is something we all fell in love with despite her acting self centered most of the time. I saw the film last night. There should be more of these to come. Voiced most times by Jenifer Lewis. What about meet and greets? This is a double standard. Lewis has made several contributions to Disney. Dizney stereotyped rich old women, witches, stupid sidekicks, greedy eastern people etc. I'm not saying they have to sound like sunshine Susie, but give me some middle ground here... geez. Disney has a long, long history of racism. This movie’s worth analyzing, but Gwen’s commentary here is not among the most insightful I’ve read on this blog. The Princess and the Frog (La princesa y el sapo en Hispanoamérica y Tiana y el sapo en España) es una película animada de Walt Disney Animation Studios, basada libremente en el libro La princesa rana, de E. D. Baker y a su misma vez en el cuento El príncipe rana de los Hermanos Grimm. ***SPOILER*** The valet acquires a spell that transforms him into the prince. Images of the Mama Odie voice actors from the Princess and the Frog franchise. Wasn't Jasmine a black Disney princess? See image of Jenifer Lewis, the voice of Mama Odie in The Princess and the Frog (Movie). Spicy sauces and peppers are integral to New Orleans cuisine, and the idea is that Tiana is a New Orleans girl through-and-through... which means enjoying the spicy food, and using spices heavily to augment her cooking. "For the record, the protagonist is only African American for part of the movie; for a good chunk of it she’s a green frog. Something perhaps more interesting to note about this particular movie is that the Prince character is also non-white, but not African American, or for that matter, American at all. The mother is nurturing, all good mothers are, and the father is inspirational because he dies when Tiana is young after inspiring her dream of owning a restaurant. New Orleans? […] Pages, T. (n.d.). She gets upset at this and later those racist characters get a mild comeuppance (mild because it's Disney, so, you know.). On the shelf sat the new Tiana calendar. Disney’s track record with racism and racist caricature makes me a little nervous when I see stuff like that toothless firefly. She challenges Tiana and Naveen to 'dig deeper' in themselves and uses the same advice on all the individuals that seek her out, looking for a 'better' life via magic . Disney Reportedly Considers Petition for Actor’s Return! A post shared by Philander Butler (@philanderc85) on Jul 31, 2020 at 3:40pm PDT. I can’t quite recall. That in and of itself is admirable even if certain points may be flawed. [1] Mama Odie’s … Kelly grew up as a complete Dis-nerd and visits the theme parks several times a year as an out-of-state WDW Annual Passholder. I have to say, I was concerned from the previews as well - but I think that Disney did an excellent job here, especially with their first black princess. Set in the lively city of New Orleans, the tale follows Tiana, a young woman who is working very hard to open her own restaurant. It was my 3 1/2 year old daughter. I didn’t realize when I found a link to the trailer after the original link disappeared that it had been changed to leave out some things I found odd in the first one. The Princess I say that it is good that they have a Black Princess in this new film. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached, or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Inside the Magic. She is voiced by Jennifer Lewis, who also does Flo and Granville Mama Odie met Simba and his friends in Simba, Timon, and Pumbaa's Adventures of The Princess and the Frog. She could also carry around her special wand as well, similarly to the Fairy Godmother and grant her own special wishes for kids. For example, Mama Odie offers dirty candy to Tiana and Prince Naveen and stirs her food with a stick. For example, its easier to depict a person as evil by making them have a mean looking face, or as slow by making them appear fat. I am boggled by how you can make voodoo, toothlessness, the big butt, being a maid etc, small matters of the film that simply add entertainment. The Princess and the Frog is a 2009 American animated musical fantasy romantic comedy film produced by Walt Disney Animation Studios and released by Walt Disney Pictures.The 49th Disney animated feature film, the film is loosely based on the novel The Frog Princess by E. D. Baker, which is in turn based on the Brothers Grimm fairy tale "The Frog Prince". We’re here for you. All of the characters, with the exception of the prince and the valet, have the accent, regardless of race. The Dr Facilier character looks more like a Baron Samedi-inspired aesthetic than a pimp, to me. 1 Disney History 1.1 The Princess and the Frog 2 Appearance 3 Trivia 4 Gallery For pictures and screenshots of Mama Odie, see Mama Odie/Gallery. Why do the characters have to talk with a "black" dialect? Jenifer Jeanette Lewis is an American stage and film actress, voice actress, comedian, singer, and activist. The Princess and the Frog was the first film to be traditionally hand drawn after a string of CGI films from Disney Animated Studios. The “Mammy” figure, a happy-go-lucky servant pleased to take care of the White family she worked for, was applied exclusively to Black women. We recently reported that Disneyland and Walt Disney World announced the retheme of Splash Mountain from Song of the South to The Princess and the Frog. The problem isn't that there isn't a white equivalent (BTW Fiona turns into a ogre during the night and does spend the majority of the movie as a human). The fact is since Tiana is the only black Disney princess, she is representing the whole by herself. She is a kindly voodoo priestess of great magical power, who lives deep in the swamps of Louisiana. I also love the general concensus among whites (and some dumb people of color): "You damn blacks got your cartoon with you in it, so stop complaining! Christ...So by the logic of 'gwen' you can't even portray black people as maids, heroes, villians, stereotype them or anything in a movie, especially not a family movie ala Dizney? Voodoo practices are a perfectly valid form of worship, and I'm concerned at Disney's track record with religions (Hunchback and Satanic imagery, anyone?). The movie takes place in New Orleans where the culture is rich and people talk a little different! But I feel like the opposing side is getting to the point where it's -too- touchy. He is a romantic Cajun firefly from New Orleans who aids Prince Naveen and Tiana in finding the kind voodoo priestess Mama Odie so she can cure them of their curse. How’s your grandmama?” – Mama Odie 19. Animation is limited in its means of depicting reality, and it must rely on certain levels of abstraction. They did this with Pocahontas and Mulan with mixed results----different cultures in Disney films are often shown as "old-fashioned" and somehow oppressing the protagonist, regardless of historical accuracy, but in the cases of the above two films they're telling stories of women who defied the accepted norm, so it has to be that way. Who Will Disney Include in the ‘Princess and the Frog’ Retheme? In New Orleans? I realize that, as sociologists, the writers of this blog are -supposed- to pick things apart, but it gets to the point where it seems like nothing will make people happy. I do think it is an interesting comparison seeing as we are talking about cultural stereotypes as well as issues of race. I just finished reading an FDR biography which had one anecdote that really stuck with me. Read more…, CC Attribution Non-Commercial Share Alike, Race and Gender in “The Princess and the Frog”. See also this post that includes a discussion of concerns that the movie “Up” wouldn’t be popular because it had an Asian lead character as well as our post on gender in Pixar films, gender roles in “Bee Movie,”. (It's really cool to see New Orleans in a cartoon though - to see the streecar I ride everyday make an appearance!). "Or the creators may have unthinkingly reproduced stereotypes because, when thinking about characters to use in a movie set in New Orleans with a Black protagonist, they drew on existing cultural imagery.". Next to it was a calendar with the other six. See went to the calendar with the six princesses. Voodoo is too often associated with black magic and evil, when in Haiti and in New Orleans (and elsewhere by other names) it is a legitimate religion and a strong part of many people's spiritual lives - and not as a way to do others harm. I'm more concerned with how voodoo, more appropriately called Vodun, will be portrayed. This one film was more racist than all the other Disney movies combined. Now, with the addition of Tiana, Disney is marketing a series of items that only focus on her. Mama Odie is a supporting character in Disney's 2009 animated feature film, The Princess and the Frog. This new movie not only gives us a black protagonist, it also seems to give us a black-centric cast, which on one hand makes me roll my eyes and think they go the Tyler Perry route of "black people can only star in movies about black people and black things" ... but on the other hand makes me feel like Disney is making an honest effort to show another race and culture other than White European. We were in a bookstore that displayed 2010 calendars. …Tiana, is sent on a mission to retrieve the rich white girl’s tiara, so she can borrow it, but along the way she’s asked to fetch some hot sauce for the gumbo before she has permission to get to the rich girl’s bedroom. LOL. Kinda. In my hometown, nearly every little aboriginal girl was decked out for school in a Pocahontas backpack, etc. The crossword clue possible answer is available in 4 letters.letters. We focus on bringing you all things fun so you can plan your theme park vacation, enjoy Disney at home, and more. To answer your inquiry, there have been NO Black Disney princesses. She also had a recurring role as Aunt Helen on the sitcomThe Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. She is a kindly voodoo priestess of great magical power, who lives deep in the swamps of Louisiana. The spell starts to wear off, and the valet (who has a substantial rear end) starts to make a reappearance - starting first with an ear, and then with the butt. - "It's not in yo' cards": the "yo'" is addressing a Louisiana (New Orleans? She met Winnie the Pooh, Ash Ketchum, and their friends in Winnie the Pooh Meets The Princess and the Frog. You and the rest of CLUELESS WHITE AMERICA!!! Mama Odie is an eccentric, humorous, and kindly voodoo priestess who despite having great power, encourages people to “dig deeper” and doesn’t use her power to grant wishes. Which would make her goal to become a great professional in her field by diligence, hard work, and prudence. ***SPOILER OVER***. I personally think this film is going to be chock full of sterotypes from the clips I have already seen. You can typically find this Foodie looking for adventures in the great wide somewhere, dreaming of far off places or bringing a bit of faith, trust, and pixie dust to the table. Personally, I'm looking forward to this movie. When "White America" gets the desperately needed dose of reality, they will understand and maybe better relate. Charlotte is one of my favorite side characters in the film. There are some interesting gender and racial elements. The problem is that there isn't enough princesses of color in the first place. Depicting Cinderella as a maid doesn’t play into pre-existing stereotypes of White women; it’s just an individual portrayal. © 2005–2020 JAK Schmidt, Inc. All rights reserved. 1930's Southern America is a fine place to explore all of those things, and I'm sure that when you see the film you'll find you have plenty to object to by virtue of all the racial problems that they will inevitably have to gloss over. I find it amazing that you Sarah and white people as a whole can see the truth and make it appear in a way better suited and pleasing to you. Would like to see Charlotte and Mama Odie wandering around Tiana’s new attraction?! Sarah, get over yourself. Maybe. The kindly old voodoo priestess is eccentric and spunky, but also a fantastic sage, more than willing to give out advice in her own creative ways to those in need. The Princess and the Frog is a 2009 Disney animated feature set inNew Orleans, Louisiana. I was hoping that the Princess and the Frog, being set in New Orleans, would draw more on the unique cultural experiences that region enjoyed, specifically, the there were free, financially independent people of African-American descent. And in 1930's Southern America, there were more black people than anywhere else in the country, and one of the commonest jobs for black people at that time was in the service industry. It seems like the godmother figure might be balancing out the presentation (she seems like a benevolent figure) but still, there is a pervasive view that Voodoo is evil and here we have the villain of the story as a practitioner. for years after the movie came out. changes need to be made, just sayin, Reaching...Reaching. New Orleans is a Creole area, not a Cajun area so that's a historical inaccuracy but that's not really that important compared to other inaccurate historical issues that Disney has created. Why don't they just add the fried chicken & watermelon?? And there’s nothing wrong with playing jazz or, for that matter, practicing voodoo (which could be seen as very similar to the magic that is so common in kids’ films). The Disney company has already distributed dozens of items that have either a single princess, three princesses, or six princesses. Mama Odie is the good counterpart to Dr. Facilier: The clever, eccentric and smart 197-year-old, blind Queen of the Bayou tried to help Tiana and Naveen to … If it was a white girl instead of the black girl, people would be complaining that it's another white princess story, and that there's a -white- princess in a setting that is filled with black characters. She challenges Tiana and Naveen to 'dig deeper' in themselves and uses the same advice on all the individuals that seek her out, looking for a 'better' life via magic. Here’s Mama Odie, the godmother figure, is a “seer” with a snake: These images and objections are interesting by themselves, but they also bring up some of the difficulties in portraying groups that have historically been stereotyped negatively and occupied a subordinate social status. The Princess and the Frog is a completely new take on a classic fairy tale love story. The new attraction will showcase the lovable and popular Disney Princess Tiana as she and Louis prepare for their first-ever Mardi Gras performance. The setting is New Orleans, if I'm not mistaken, and yes, black people live in New Orleans. Related: Will Princess Tiana Be Human or Frog in Splash Mountain? Check out 'Daily Celebrity' answers for TODAY! Oh, Disney. In New Orleans. The main example. The movie website has a video game. Still a definite downturn. We’ll do our best to help get you a solution really quickly so you can progress with your crossword puzzle. Yes, there were black characters in a few Disney animated features here and there, but nothing too positive. :).  Charming. than it has to do with race itself. Their “all over the place” energy would be perfect for interactions with children and adults by the new attraction. - "Black people playing jazz and dancing": the Jazz and dancing is, again, being portrayed as an integral part of New Orleans culture, not an integral part of being a black person. "Inspirational," hard-working, cooking, magical black people with all the earthy, down-home answers to everything. Such a figure is traditional in Louisiana créole folklore and beyond. In 1912 New Orleans a seamstress, Eudora, is reading the story of The Frog Prince to her daughter, Tiana, and her friend, Charlotte La Bouff. I really do. ***SPOILERISH OVER***, - The parental race/gender roles: When I watched the movie, both parents seemed equally nurturing and inspirational, but I suspect that they get those labels because the mother is alive throughout the whole film - so she remains a nurturing force, while the father serves as an inspiring memory. But then, doesn’t the princess turn into an ogre in at least some of the “Shrek” movies? Retrieved November 19, 2020, from https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/08/27/race-and-gender-in-the-princess-and-the-frog/ […], […] Pages, T. (n.d.). The comments kept coming in as some agreed with this Disney fan while others shared their own thoughts and “must have” character appearances — several rooting for our favorite little lightning bug, Ray! One of those is the stereotypical image. …based on this trailer, the other things that Black people get to do are voodoo shit, playing jazz and dancing, and making jokes about their butts. And in my defense, it also turns out Disney has recut the trailer and some of the scenes that were in it when I first started writing up some commentary aren’t in it any more. How is it that you find qualities that represent African Americans, so well, amusing? Tiana is a modern, courageous, and empowered woman, who pursues her dreams and never loses sight of what’s really important. Splash Mountain – at both Disneyland park in California and Magic Kingdom park in Florida – will soon be completely reimagined. Of course one doesn't want to perpetuate the stereotype of the cheerful black maid who loves nothing better than tending to her employer at the expense of her own individuality; but is depicting a black teenager as a maid, in a story set in a time and place where black teenagers were quite likely to be maids and maids were quite likely to be black teenager, always off limits? The greater problem then is not Disney's portrayal, it's the public insistence that it undergo a heightened scrutiny even before the film has been seen. If there were no black people at all, there would be complaints. This movie's worth analyzing, but Gwen's commentary here is not among the most insightful I've read on this blog. You see it wouldn't be so problematic if there were other black Disney characters that were portrayed in a good light. It sends the message that race is not an issue and not something to be inhibited by. This article is a demonstration of why a modern Disney animated film dealing with African Americans in a positive light is a difficult thing. That fly didn't have a Cajun accent. From DisneyWiki on searching The Fenner Brothers : However it's unlikely as it is that someone would bid on the mill after twenty years of it being untouched in the same week Tiana placed her bid, the Fenner brothers probably made that up to prevent having to sell the mill to a woman of colour. Body: The characters that are depicted as desirable all conform to . I think a lot of the stereotypical motifs that you're talking about are tied more to the film's region -- that is to say, New Orleans, the Bayou, the South, etc. We've learned to be modest overtime so people would live us alone and let us go about our business, but anyway. Let's wait until the film is out before we determine if there are any high crimes, but we might be well advised to not attack all perceived misdemeanors. in all their movies. Story Structure in The Princess and the Frog I love The Princess and the Frog. 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